<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Top 5 Differences Between Amazon RDS and Microsoft SQL Azure</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.webyog.com/blog/2010/01/06/top-5-differences-between-amazon-rds-and-microsoft-sql-azure/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.webyog.com/blog/2010/01/06/top-5-differences-between-amazon-rds-and-microsoft-sql-azure/</link>
	<description>MySQL Monitoring &#38; GUI Tools</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:45 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: oksteven</title>
		<link>http://www.webyog.com/blog/2010/01/06/top-5-differences-between-amazon-rds-and-microsoft-sql-azure/comment-page-1/#comment-17779</link>
		<dc:creator>oksteven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.webyog.com/blog/?p=1458#comment-17779</guid>
		<description>Amazon RDS is simply a virtual machine that has MySQL installed on it. It does not have anything to do with cloud. You gotta increase the storage manually, you gotta buy more memory + cpu speed if your db increase. Microsoft SQL Azure is the only true cloud database.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon RDS is simply a virtual machine that has MySQL installed on it. It does not have anything to do with cloud. You gotta increase the storage manually, you gotta buy more memory + cpu speed if your db increase. Microsoft SQL Azure is the only true cloud database.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://www.webyog.com/blog/2010/01/06/top-5-differences-between-amazon-rds-and-microsoft-sql-azure/comment-page-1/#comment-10638</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.webyog.com/blog/?p=1458#comment-10638</guid>
		<description>I wonder why it&#039;s simply not possible to scale-out a relational DBMS without sharding on appication level? Replication is no option in write-heavy environments. So this &#039;SQL Azure scales unlimitedly&#039; is only the half of the truth or not? Especially with high volume databases. If you watch Facebook, Digg and other big internet companies, they all are not able to use the relational features in such big environments. Solution one is sharding on application level and drop usage of relational features. Solution two is switching to distributed data storage (Cassandra, HBase or other semi structured data stores). So how can they claim that their new shiny relational DBMS in the Cloud can scale-out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why it&#8217;s simply not possible to scale-out a relational DBMS without sharding on appication level? Replication is no option in write-heavy environments. So this &#8216;SQL Azure scales unlimitedly&#8217; is only the half of the truth or not? Especially with high volume databases. If you watch Facebook, Digg and other big internet companies, they all are not able to use the relational features in such big environments. Solution one is sharding on application level and drop usage of relational features. Solution two is switching to distributed data storage (Cassandra, HBase or other semi structured data stores). So how can they claim that their new shiny relational DBMS in the Cloud can scale-out?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sayan Chaliha</title>
		<link>http://www.webyog.com/blog/2010/01/06/top-5-differences-between-amazon-rds-and-microsoft-sql-azure/comment-page-1/#comment-10458</link>
		<dc:creator>Sayan Chaliha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.webyog.com/blog/?p=1458#comment-10458</guid>
		<description>@cowgaR,

I am going to refer you to &lt;a href=&quot;http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ssdsgetstarted/thread/edb16e4c-312b-463b-9679-f5dd6e755083/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; discussion I had with the MS guys at the SQL Azure forum. I asked the very same question, and that is what they had to say in reply: Unlimited scaling at no extra cost! I was pretty surprised myself. However, off the top of my head, I can&#039;t remember links to such references elsewhere. I&#039;ll have to scour the SQL Azure documentation again.

As far as DB settings go, I partially agree with you. Yes, of course you&#039;d want to relieve yourself of the burden of tuning a DB. And that is a major advantage of cloud-based DBaaS. You also have to agree that the scalability offered could be quite a motivation for using DBaaS. But a certain section of power-users and performance enthusiasts (aka, the geeks, if you may) would hate to relinquish that control in lieu of having their DBs run in high performance environments such as cloud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cowgaR,</p>
<p>I am going to refer you to <a href="http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ssdsgetstarted/thread/edb16e4c-312b-463b-9679-f5dd6e755083/" rel="nofollow">this</a> discussion I had with the MS guys at the SQL Azure forum. I asked the very same question, and that is what they had to say in reply: Unlimited scaling at no extra cost! I was pretty surprised myself. However, off the top of my head, I can&#8217;t remember links to such references elsewhere. I&#8217;ll have to scour the SQL Azure documentation again.</p>
<p>As far as DB settings go, I partially agree with you. Yes, of course you&#8217;d want to relieve yourself of the burden of tuning a DB. And that is a major advantage of cloud-based DBaaS. You also have to agree that the scalability offered could be quite a motivation for using DBaaS. But a certain section of power-users and performance enthusiasts (aka, the geeks, if you may) would hate to relinquish that control in lieu of having their DBs run in high performance environments such as cloud.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: cowgaR</title>
		<link>http://www.webyog.com/blog/2010/01/06/top-5-differences-between-amazon-rds-and-microsoft-sql-azure/comment-page-1/#comment-10432</link>
		<dc:creator>cowgaR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.webyog.com/blog/?p=1458#comment-10432</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;SQL Azure on the other hand allows unlimited scaling at no extra cost. All you pay for is the increased data transfer.&lt;/i&gt;

If I understand this correctly, under the hood I&#039;ll get super-performant virtual machine, which will handle all my sql queries, say, even 10 thousands per second.
The only thing I pay for is increased traffic?

If this is true, it would be awesome. Can you provide me some resources on this please?
Traffic usually gets lower at night, and no matter how strong Amazon RDS server I choose, it is still one and only one server, and without replication, isn&#039;t able to handle high concurency sites (some smaller one requires say 10 DB HW servers).

I am willing to pay whatever the cost for SQL Azure, if they promise me parallel queries and super-efficient DB engine. But I don&#039;t know if that is the case, because they were saying that to increase query parallelism you need to scale out (sharding). But I&#039;m scaling out because of DB size limit, I don&#039;t want to scale out because of their system is weak. Please, elaborate.

In that case, Amazon wins, as I can buy more powerful server than what AZURE SQL provides as their &quot;top maximum&quot;.

2nd thing, I think changing DB settings is against databases in the cloud. Question is, why would I like to put my DB to cloud? Answer is, because of maintance.
If I need to check it, set it up, and do various other things, I can do it on my dedicated host as well!

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>SQL Azure on the other hand allows unlimited scaling at no extra cost. All you pay for is the increased data transfer.</i></p>
<p>If I understand this correctly, under the hood I&#8217;ll get super-performant virtual machine, which will handle all my sql queries, say, even 10 thousands per second.<br />
The only thing I pay for is increased traffic?</p>
<p>If this is true, it would be awesome. Can you provide me some resources on this please?<br />
Traffic usually gets lower at night, and no matter how strong Amazon RDS server I choose, it is still one and only one server, and without replication, isn&#8217;t able to handle high concurency sites (some smaller one requires say 10 DB HW servers).</p>
<p>I am willing to pay whatever the cost for SQL Azure, if they promise me parallel queries and super-efficient DB engine. But I don&#8217;t know if that is the case, because they were saying that to increase query parallelism you need to scale out (sharding). But I&#8217;m scaling out because of DB size limit, I don&#8217;t want to scale out because of their system is weak. Please, elaborate.</p>
<p>In that case, Amazon wins, as I can buy more powerful server than what AZURE SQL provides as their &#8220;top maximum&#8221;.</p>
<p>2nd thing, I think changing DB settings is against databases in the cloud. Question is, why would I like to put my DB to cloud? Answer is, because of maintance.<br />
If I need to check it, set it up, and do various other things, I can do it on my dedicated host as well!</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sayan Chaliha</title>
		<link>http://www.webyog.com/blog/2010/01/06/top-5-differences-between-amazon-rds-and-microsoft-sql-azure/comment-page-1/#comment-10287</link>
		<dc:creator>Sayan Chaliha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.webyog.com/blog/?p=1458#comment-10287</guid>
		<description>@Marc:
You get the picture!

@Alex:
Thanks for your valuable insight! Of course, I do realize that SQL Azure is not even out of beta yet, and yes, I&#039;m definitely looking forward to what Microsoft has to offer in the future. But, very frankly, I really wanted to concentrate on the &quot;now&quot; instead of speculating. So I went ahead and compared the CTP version of SQL Azure with Amazon RDS. Justification: Take into consideration Amazon RDS&#039;s release announcement... I knew at that point that SQL Azure was in the making, but I had no idea that Amazon was up to anything like it. Not everybody is waiting around for somebody else. And not to mention, this post will be outdated within a couple of months, I&#039;m sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marc:<br />
You get the picture!</p>
<p>@Alex:<br />
Thanks for your valuable insight! Of course, I do realize that SQL Azure is not even out of beta yet, and yes, I&#8217;m definitely looking forward to what Microsoft has to offer in the future. But, very frankly, I really wanted to concentrate on the &#8220;now&#8221; instead of speculating. So I went ahead and compared the CTP version of SQL Azure with Amazon RDS. Justification: Take into consideration Amazon RDS&#8217;s release announcement&#8230; I knew at that point that SQL Azure was in the making, but I had no idea that Amazon was up to anything like it. Not everybody is waiting around for somebody else. And not to mention, this post will be outdated within a couple of months, I&#8217;m sure!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.webyog.com/blog/2010/01/06/top-5-differences-between-amazon-rds-and-microsoft-sql-azure/comment-page-1/#comment-10285</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.webyog.com/blog/?p=1458#comment-10285</guid>
		<description>Actually, you&#039;re focusing a lot on what is coming out on day 1 re: SQL Azure.  There will be new sizes available for Azure databases within the next year that will make them competitive to what you can do with mySql/Amazon.  They wanted to limit the size of databases coming out the gate since its still in beta. And as you pointed out, developers do need to start considering how to shard out - MS has plans in place to try and make this relatively seemless for the developer.

Subset of TSQL - yes, but the differences are very small and would affect less than 2% of development.  Most of the features that are unavailable in T-SQL relate to being on a &quot;shared&quot; instance of SQL Server and are not available for obvious security reasons.

Agree with LAMP vs. MS Shop analogy for now, but even PHP developers can take advantage of Azure right now.  The connectivity will only grow.

Just remember - Azure is only coming out of beta in Q1 of 2010.  There&#039;s a lot in the pipeline that will make a lot of your comments moot within the next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, you&#8217;re focusing a lot on what is coming out on day 1 re: SQL Azure.  There will be new sizes available for Azure databases within the next year that will make them competitive to what you can do with mySql/Amazon.  They wanted to limit the size of databases coming out the gate since its still in beta. And as you pointed out, developers do need to start considering how to shard out &#8211; MS has plans in place to try and make this relatively seemless for the developer.</p>
<p>Subset of TSQL &#8211; yes, but the differences are very small and would affect less than 2% of development.  Most of the features that are unavailable in T-SQL relate to being on a &#8220;shared&#8221; instance of SQL Server and are not available for obvious security reasons.</p>
<p>Agree with LAMP vs. MS Shop analogy for now, but even PHP developers can take advantage of Azure right now.  The connectivity will only grow.</p>
<p>Just remember &#8211; Azure is only coming out of beta in Q1 of 2010.  There&#8217;s a lot in the pipeline that will make a lot of your comments moot within the next year.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.webyog.com/blog/2010/01/06/top-5-differences-between-amazon-rds-and-microsoft-sql-azure/comment-page-1/#comment-10282</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 11:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.webyog.com/blog/?p=1458#comment-10282</guid>
		<description>AFAIC Amazon pricing is off by a factor 10. Microsoft offers a smarter pricing model and setup. And I thought I would never say this, but unfortunately I&#039;m on mySQL. So unless Amazon gets a bit smarter with its pricing, no clouds for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFAIC Amazon pricing is off by a factor 10. Microsoft offers a smarter pricing model and setup. And I thought I would never say this, but unfortunately I&#8217;m on mySQL. So unless Amazon gets a bit smarter with its pricing, no clouds for me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
<!-- WP Super Cache is installed but broken. The path to wp-cache-phase1.php in wp-content/advanced-cache.php must be fixed! -->
